Today saw the move of NER Carriage 456 into the Woodworking Shed- this involved clearing the Andrews House Branch.
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| David on Aw.No2 |
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| Moving the first vehicle of the day- the flat. |
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| 225M Being moved out the AH Branch |
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| Ben and Andrew working on brake gear on 456 |
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| Luke altering the length of Tie Bars |
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| Shunting continues with the Ashington 8 wheeled brake being the next to exit the branch. |
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| David doing some final prep before movement of 456 |
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| The Shunting team- Chris, Andrew, Chris, Luke, Ben, Euan and David. Average age- 22 |
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| 456... |
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| ...Slowly making its way.... |
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| ...into the Wood Working shed... |
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| ... Ready for overhaul. |
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| And then the great shunt to get all the stock back begins. |
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| Euan (in the rain).... |
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| ..and Andrew in the dry returning stock back to the branch. |
8 comments:
Is there a history of 456 available please.
Good evening Barry. Carriage No. 456 was built in the York carriage workshops of the North Eastern Railway in around 1890. It is a luggage composite, with a central luggage compartment, a pair of first class compartments either side of that, and third class compartments at the ends.
It was withdrawn in the 1930s and grounded at a farm near Driffield in North Yorkshire. To get it to that location it was cut in half through the middle of the luggage compartment. Thanks to the assistance of its then owner it was rescued and transferred to Marley Hill just over ten years ago and mounted onto a salvaged ex British Railways chassis of the right length.
As you can see it will be an extensive restoration project, put the Carriage & Waggon team are looking forward to the challenge.
If you've got any other questions, we'll try our best to answer them.
It's on the Vintage Carriage Register - see http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=4696
Thank you both for taking the time to reply, it’s all very interesting and I look forward to seeing it in service.
Great to hear work has started. After the people we donated it to moved down south I thought that was the end of the restoration.
The idea originally was with the double doored luggage compartment that it could be turned into a disabled access carrige. is this still the plan ?
How is work progressing ?
Can we come and see it ?
We were given complimentary tickets to come and ride in it on its inaugural day, they may be past their use by date by now !!!!
It was used as a lambing pen shed on our farm for what seemed like forever, no one remembers the date it arrived.
If you want copies of the pictures of it when at the farm please let me know.
Best regards
Peter Billington
railway.pb@btinternet.com
1 other thing I have just remebered, we believed it to be smoking at one end and non smoking at the other end beacuse of the positioning of the roof vents. So all 4 compartments were slightly different.
best regards
Peter Billington
railway.pb:btinternet.com
History of 456
been digging through my correspondence records and have found the following history from NERA
From: CWilliamson
Sent: 20 September 2004 13:12
To: PeterBillington
Subject: NER 6 wheel composite carriage number 456
Dear Mr Billington,
Further to your email regarding coach No. 456 passed to us recently by our secretary
it is very interesting to hear of another NER coach being preserved - lets hope that
the Tanfield Railway are successful in their application to the lottery.
From records we have No. 456 was a 32 foot long 6-wheeled Locker Composite with 2 first
class and 2 third class compartments plus a central locker or 'luggage' compartment as
you say. The compartments were arranged thus 31Lug13. The coach was built in March 1886
at York Carriage Works. A total of 201 were built to the same design between 1884 and 1891.
There were a total of 1509 six-wheeled coaches built between 1881 and 1895. Longer bogie
coaches were introduced in 1895 The design was designated as diagram 9 (the NER had many
coach designs over the years so produced diagram books to illustrate the types to its chief
operating staff). In common with other NER passenger vehicles of the period it was equipped
with Westinghouse air brakes and gas lighting. As NER coaches were all produced 'in-house'
by York Works printed specifications were not produced for tendering purposes by outside
contractors. Livery and general interior details can be obtained from our publication
'North Eastern Record, Volume 2', which deals with rolling stock.
When first built six-wheeled stock was used on local branch and suburban services across
the NER system - it is not possible to where No. 456 was allocated as the NER as records
do not survive. However No. 456 would have operated with other six-wheel stock to form
typical trains of 3 - 6 coaches on branch services or up to 10-12 vehicles on suburban
services around Newcastle.
No. 456 was withdrawn from service on 22nd April 1915. Six wheeled stock was considered
obsolete by this date and due to the NER's progressive coach building policies all regular
train services would have been operated by more modern bogie stock by 1904-10 - No. 456
would have used on excursion traffic in its later years. Many coach bodies were sold off
by the railway to local farmers, etc. which is why Tanfield and other preservation groups
are fortunately able to restore and run Victorian era trains.
Yes, No. 456 is identical to 1111 on the NYMR - that coach was built in May 1890 and
withdrawn in 1924 but was converted to a Mess Coach for engineers use at Bishop Auckland
- as such it retains its original underframe.
Hope you find the above info of interest. Do you have any images of No. 456 as I could
send in a news item to the NERA journal?
Regards,
David Williamson
NERA
Extra info from Tanfield R barton
Built 1885
Grounded Apr 1915
Chassis went towards the war effort
Hope that helps
Peter Billington
railway.pb@btinternet.com
Hi Peter
I've sent your September 2022 comments to involved Tanfield volunteers.
Thanks
Derek
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